Beiträge von Alfred & Sarah

    Belle & Das Biest: I can't tell you. Sorry. It was an experiment anyway, and the chances I'm smarter after it were kinda low anyway.

    Rusty & Pearl: What reactions do you expect? I will vote for whoever you guys vote, and I guess everyone else as well.

    If you want to know my opinion, Flat Top is not the best choice for today, but it's still possible that he is a werewolf. So basically I just hope that you two are right.

    I have an interesting experiment.
    Belle & Das Biest: Please give me a small essay about how you think your general position was in this game each day. (In terms of whether or not you felt like a strong, important peace of the village or not, how many people suspected you, and so on)
    Quasimodo & Esmeralda: The same.
    (anyone who really wants to answer that question, is welcome to do so)

    I'm sure you have allready said something about him, but what was your opinion to Flat Top?

    Flat Top is pretty much on the border between my village and my wolves. He shares that position with Buffy who I found more positive in the recent posts.

    Really think Wrench, Flat Top and Turnov are wolves.

    Maybe, but atm really unlikely it could be Carboose instead of Flat top or Wrench (in that case Wrench is more likely the villager). Nevertheless Wrench, Flat Top and Turnov all seem pretty wolfish to me soo....think I'll stay there till I die

    How can you be sure that nothing is going to change your mind in the next days?

    I would also like to express my concerns about Wrench and why many people see her as a wolf right after 4 people died yesterday and we are getting in an end-game situation. I am convinced that she is a villager, and so I'm suspect about everyone who treats him as a serious opportunity to vote.

    What has Wrench done so that you see her in the village by so far?

    You assume here, that Turnov and Buffy are wolves? If one of them or both aren't, how would your conclusion change?

    1. why do you care?
    2. I did that statement with the assumption that at least one of them is a werewolf. If that's not the case, you're almost certainly a werewolf by exclusion principle.

    Anna & Elsa, Pearl: Please coordinate your lynch today.

    @All: Do you think Turnov is trying to manipulate us or does he really not know why Coco and I should be villagers?

    I don't think he is trying to manipulate us. It just seems like he has not read what happened. I wouldn't even draw a lot of conclusions about his role to be honest. It just shows his lack of motivation for the game and I'd say if we have a villager who's playing like that, we lost anyway, so I don't have a problem voting him.

    Btw I agree to many of the things you said about Ashley. I liked her game so far, she seems somehow on her own and pushes the game forward quite well. But again, it's somehow almost too perfect and too slippery. This is also what makes me unsure about her.

    Did you read Buffy so far? I would like to know what you think about her.

    Anna & Elsa: Can you quickly explain again what makes Turnov likely to be a villager in your opinion? I remember that this is something you said for a long time, but I must have forgotten the argument.

    Here are just some random interactions of day 1 between the people that are suspicious to me now.

    Well i'm not convinved by Wrench.

    But it could be also his general style. Idk

    I have to look another time maybe. I will give him/her some time.- for now not positive at all. It doesn't seem like he's really into the games flow.

    This is a very early statement of Flat Top. Would she take this opportunity to already drag down one of her teammates who was not criticised by anyone else at this point? Maybe. In my opinion, the least likely scenario here is Flat Top wolf and Wrench villager, since the criticism is rather on point and quite original

    Caboose is really suspect for me, but he is so or so really suspect

    that "really" is kind of strong, given the fact that Ashley never voted for Caboose afterwards. I don't like it. Also the story-part of this accusation is a bit distracting. I have to read Cabooses reaction to that again (I think I didn't quote it)

    Yeah i have nothin gin mind from turnov-which usually is a bad sign- but i just think it was kinda unnecassary at this point

    Could fit to a Turnov-Wrench-team. "I don't have him positive, but...".

    im unsure about my feelings for this post. at first i thought: oh yes youre right! but now while im writing this it kinda feels like he directly wanted to prevent beeing called out for his style

    This was something about Caboose (about the Post where Caboose held a monologue about how this game mode makes it harder for everyone). I find it a strange thought that Caboose wanted to prevent being called out for their style. This quote kind of implies that Wrench already knew about Cabooses (bad) alignment. Else I really don't know where the thought would come from.

    i kinda see villager like thoughts here.

    overall my first impression of flat top was very villager like. I like the way hes questioning things and wants to solve the game but at the same time is relaxed.

    Here, Wrench gives quite a strong and unrelativized statement about Flat Top (who was not mentioned by others that much at this point). If Wrench is a werewolf, Flat Top might be more likely to be villager.

    im unsure about my feelings for this post. at first i thought: oh yes youre right! but now while im writing this it kinda feels like he directly wanted to prevent beeing called out for his style

    That's typicall me xD I write one sentebce in the beginning and this sentence happens to seem very evil xD No, you can judge my style (as a tip, I tend to be more telling about my feelings in english in contrast to german) it's just I try to order some players I play regular with based on the tone of their posts, without looking at the content. And I won't be able to do so this game, which makes a a lot more difficult for me.

    I have to admit it really hard for me to get into the game, speaking english and more people roleplaying than in a "normal" game creates an emotional distance between myself and the game. Espacially because I know nothing about Starlight Express and have trouble telling jokes based on the musical and real conversations apart. I don't want you to stop doing that (because I think for everyone else it's a lot of fun), but maybe you could write jokes in cursive or so, just that I know you're joking and participate more easily.

    Cabooses reaction to Wrench. Actually seems not really team-like to me. I don't know whether I should find this passage of Caboose villager-like or not. It is honest for sure, but I could also imagine a wolf coming up with this speech.
    Help?

    Rusty & Pearl: Is it so important that you figure out my alignment instantly? I don't know how to help you with it and for me, your posts are not really helpful if I'm the person you think about the most. I would appreciate to read more of your thoughts about Buffy, Wrench, Caboose, Ashley, Flat Top and Turnov.

    Acutally, if Caboose was a werewolf and Turnov was not, I don't think he would dare vote him, because first of all, it seems unlikely that it works anyway and second of all, it's something really mean. I conclude that either Caboose and Turnov are both werewolves or only Turnov (or none of them, which is technically still possible, I guess.)

    It will be crucial to find the villager(s) under Buffy, Caboose and Flat Top. I guess that there is at least one.

    My feeling says Buffy, Wrench and Turnov are evil.
    In general, out of the suspicious people, Turnov definitely seems the "easiest" to find and Ashley seems the "hardest" to find. However, I don't want to believe that Ashley AND Wrench are evil at the moment, this would just be too sad. On the other hand, the very strange interactions between Buffy, Flat Top, Caboose are unlikely created by wolves only. I'm gonna read Electra now.

    I'm really disappointed by the Rusty Lynch.

    This sounds like a nice fella, lets hit some bar and lets get wasted tonight, before the "real" fun tomorrow begins!

    Before Night 1

    So far I like Coco the most, she seems like sharing all deep thoughts, which is for me - as first impression - a sign for villager. Kinda-ish.

    After Night 1

    Furthermore I think Pearl should be as well on the side of the good ppl, since she is active, sharing thoughts, asking good questions.

    They both stood out of the mass. On other ppl I haven´t a tendence to already say they might be villager or they might be werwolf.

    Before Night 2

    I agree that Pearl and Coco are most likely the scans.
    So, now we are probably looking for 3 or more evil people among 9. To be precise, I'm actually looking for two good people among 6 right now. Buffy, Wrench, Caboose, Ashley, Flat Top and Turnov. At the moment I would go for Ashley and Caboose, but I don't think that's correct, solely based on the probabilities.
    VOTE: Turnov for now.

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    Turnov (1): Joule

    Verbleibende Zeit: 22:10:51

    sometimes it felt a little bit played imo. but i like his reaction to buffy

    This is just a placeholder to say that it's striking how often Wrench says things I totally agree on. Still, his style is somehow too neutral to make me sure of him being a villager (and some people just have the talent to spot many truths as a wolf too).
    Elisabeth & Der Tod: Do something crazy please.

    But whoever said that my vote was pure luck, thats not nice at all! Especially since half of the people that person listet, I would not have votet. Nevertheless, I wasn't sure with Ruhrgold, but I can ensure you that I was thinking about everything quite long so that my vote was not out of the blue.

    Maybe you mean me, but I think you even called yourself lucky after the lynch. I don't think it's pure luck btw, there are certainly factors that lead to you voting Ruhrgold instead of someone else. I just tried to explain some point and for that I listed some people that were (in my point of view) in a similar position than Ruhrgold. Maybe for you that was a different set of people.
    Anyway, sorry if you took it personally. I'm very happy about your decision :D

    :hug: No i'm not mad. It is okay, if you think so.

    As is said i tried my best!

    And I think your a villager. That is enough for me at the moment. :)

    Okay for me it seemed a little bit like a dagger in the neck when you turned my caution into a wolfsign.

    Maybe we can put aside that for a while.

    What ist your opinion about carboose at that moment?

    This gave me a feeling of Flat Top villager again. I'm seriously confused by him. His mood seems so inconsistent and I really don't know why he would act so strongly. I don't even think it makes a lot of sense as a werewolf.
    In any case, Flat Top is probably just a really strange person and I might start just going for pure content instead of reading something into the tone.

    Can me say somebody some striking point about Dinah. She's a little bit out of my focus today.

    Furtermore I like Flat tops actual activity

    About Dinah: Nothing striking, but in my opinion, she has too much of a villager-label for what she has actually done in this game. Compared to you for example (I think you have done much more.) Maybe that's just my opinion, but anyway. I find that suspicious.
    What do you think about Flat Tops content?

    untypical for who or what? xD a villager, a wolf, my as a person?

    so enough "pretty"s from me at that point

    Buffy seems so self-centered (which is normally a small villager sign) but also incredibly self-aware about her post (which I know from myself rather as a werwolf). I don't like it.

    can you explain, what you like about buffy?

    Yeah, I had just been scanning all the posts at that point and it seemed to me as if Buffy exposed herself a lot and put herself in the middle of a conversation. After reading more thoroughly, I don't really like her anymore.

    Beside of this I think I would actually vote on VOTE:Volta

    Yeah, I have to say that Volta is someone who really didn't do a lot so far. I hope she can start actually doing something. I still have a plus from the very little content she has created, so I don't want to kill her today. But it might be inevitable that Tarzan & Jane is lynched soon.

    Also, I wanted to say that Rusty has something to him that I find villagery. He is somehow very confident and critical at the same time. He doesn't create that much content but tbh, I think the density of actually useful stuff is higher than in the post of some other people.

    if you think its artificial, what does it says about ashley then?

    (that was about Rusty's reaction to Ashley's accusation)
    I don't think it has to say a lot about Ashley. This kind of reaction makes sense in each scenario, so I don't want to exclude the possibilty that he reacts like that to a team member. But apart from that, I like Ashley very much this game and it seems not likely to me that she's a werewolf.

    Im unsure who i would have voted yesterday, but honestly probably electra over ruhrgold.

    Can you quickly say why? What's your opinion about Electra? And what's your opinion about Electra's opinions?

    so if its completly understandable in both roles, do you think we can even get informations from the votes?

    Sure.
    First of all, Ruhrgold turned out to be a wolf and second of all, only very few players are responsible for this. It is a huge plus for Pearl and it makes Electra look better, because both of those players had almost equivalent other choices at this point. If Pearl was a werewolf and already explained her issues with the Caboose-Lynch, she might as well throw in really anyone with a similar standing than Ruhrgold (I think I explained that thought before), and most likely she could have chosen a villager among these people. Also, most of us already saw her as a villager, so she doesn't even need to risk something in order to prove herself. I conclude that the move from her part would not make any sense as a werewolf (furthermore, her reaction to the lynch is very authentic.)
    Concerning Electra: If Caboose is NOT a werewolf and she already found an excuse to vote on Caboose, there is no real need to switch again (since, if I recall correctly, she didn't express unease towards a Caboose-Lynch besides justifying it as "better him than me"). So for me, a Caboose-villager makes Electra-wolf more unlikely. If Caboose is a werewolf, it might still be that Electra is one as well, but the possibility for that is lower than for the other case in my opinion.

    This is the information i get from the votes. In case that Ruhrgold died as villager, I wouldn't get much information I think (that's why I was criticising it in the first place).
    Btw, Ashley doesn't get special credits for her vote, rather for general good play, I think.

    Sheesh even reading it now, gets me chills.

    Why?
    Sounds a bit exaggerated. Also the second time she writes this in her post.

    So why not voting them, especially if you do not have another person that negative? And that you now make the statement that you maybe would have switched to Ruhrgold seems a bit shady to me

    As I said, I completely understand the Ruhrgold vote.
    How should this statement be shady? I don't get it. Obviously it's just the truth (else I wouldn't write it, because of course someone like you comes around the corner to tell me that this is shady)
    I think that a lot of people just didn't understand what I was trying to say about this matter.

    Is this a joke? Is this serious? Do you want to get reactions? You confuse me....

    What kind of alarm bells? Is relativizing one alarm bell? Or was it the only reason?

    I share your Jugolas point but atm i think it was a joke

    Flat Top is extremely 'on needles'. I don't like it, because confusion is something wolves often use as a protection. Also, there is not even a good reason to be confused in my opinion.

    ;( that was mean. I cried a lot.

    I don't even get why you said that at that point? Dou you just wanted to call out silly/inactive people? What is your thought behind that here? It just make sense for me if you want to put them into the focus and i don't like the way you do that.

    This seems like bad acting. It can't be sarcasm because from the two quotes above, I conclude that Flat Top probably would not the best person to detect it.

    I like that post from Flat Top. Seems totally authentic

    I really think the opposite, but yeah...

    Pinned. I will not forget that. I'm curious now.

    This is something I liked from Flat Top.

    and she voted 6 minutes before the lynch ended, provoked with that action an draw, (which wolves don't bother at all) and there was no real sign, that there are some ninjas coming.

    Okay, I understand your thought, but what should a villager do in her situation if she doesn't want to kill Caboose or Electra?