Beiträge von Sh1n

Because the opinions on you are divided. Unlike Ruhrgold. No one really likes him and no one is really convinced of him being a wolf.

I think Ruhrgold is pretty much the definition of an uninteresting neutral lynch. Not so cool in ms opinion. However, it's understandable indeed.

Margit das grausam Mal: Yes, your thought process is fine, but not voting for anyone is not realistic in this situation. Why don't you dare making your opinions concrete by voting, even if the foundations are weak? It's tactically wrong if you're a villager.

Obviously, Coco is right. Please vote, everyone.

Whoever asked me about my vote for Electra (I think it was Juwel), this is one of the reasons. I'm not in favour of chaos.

Okay, more happend.

I like Coco's post again.

I didn't really like Rusty's post. His criticism towards Buffy is completely justified, and his opinion about Pearl and Coco is something I share. Nevertheless I would have hoped for more insight into his thoughts. As of now, it all seems a bit shallow, and also I got the impression that the question to Buffy about Turnov is a bit out of place. I had the thought that Rusty might be wolf with either Turnov or Buffy and tried to create either mindgames (If Turnov) or interaction (If Buffy) with one of his furry friends.

Not so much happened in the meantime.

A few more posts from Volta. If she was a wolf, it would be quite strange to talk to Coco like that (I have the sentence "I hope you are smarter than that if you're a villager" in mind) and also her reactions to Electra seem quite authentic.

I didn't like Turnov's post. He evaluates everyone without actually saying a lot, which I don't like. Also I don't like his opinion, on Caboose for example. Turnov seems quite passive and not pro-active in this game. I really hope his headache is not so terrible.

It also occured to me that Wrench has a pretty special position in this game. She seems much more in the questioning mode. The comments are usually quite good in my opinion, but I would wish for more opinions.

Also I'm looking forward to Rusty's post.

Btw, I still don't have a good feeling for Dinah. I don't know what it is, but it's there from the first day.

Sorry, as usual I will have more time in the evening. For now, I'd like to express that

VOTE: Electra is the most suspicious person to me at the moment, despite me changing back and forth on this yesterday. I also don't understand how Pearl finds his posts authentic.

It's interesting to read what Buffy thinks about the game. There is not really much I would agree on, but at least her opinion seems quite original and I think it's likely that it originates from a villagers mind.

Ashley is very motivated and her content is good, so I tend to trust her for now.

I don't like that Coco votes for Buffy after that post. He seems either too self-centered (My feeling still doesn't say she's a wolf though, but since day 1, she has really disappointed me a little bit)

I hope that I can read everything before the deadline and then make a good decision.

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Verbleibende Zeit: 03:13:21

You're quite a cheeky person, dear Electra.

You might have convinced me already to shrug it of as a false alarm. (Also the post about Cocos recent argument indeed has something to it).

Before I get totally messed up, I will rather go to sleep.

Just to clarify this:

My famously quoted "personality-read" on Pearl has less to do with her identity or her alignment even. It's more something for myself that helps me telling apart the stuff I should evaluate in her posts and the things I shouldn't, and also gives me a guideline for how to evaluate things. Small, unrelated example: If someone considerate who usually doesn't like to position themselves in the center of attention suddenly puts down a lot of conspicuous content, it makes them much more likely to be villager. This is not necessarily true if a notoriously careless person does the same.

Something else: Electra's longer post activated eight out of ten alarm bells. So much relativizing. So awkward to read. Really gives me wolf vibes.

The post where he calls Jugolas a villager-like person doesn't improve the situation.

Dinah: How is it hurtful what Coco wrote? I don't quite understand that.

Yeah, obviously I agree on the fact that Coco and Dinah don't fit into one evil team. A more interesting insight should be that a Wrench/Rusty team seems unlikely.

Zitat von Dinah

Zitat von Joule

- I understand Dinah's concerns about Coco. There are some serious problems with Coco's interpretation of some situations. I agree that there are some flaws in his reasoning, but to be honest, I can hardly imagine a werewolf deliberatly trying to force a bad picture on someone in such a way. I find it a bit surprising that Dinah finds that suspicious. It seems like a too easy conclusion to me.

But how can that conclusion be too easy, when no one else besides me evaluates it that way?

You were the one to start criticizing me for being over the top and Coco just took the easy road going against me. I mean it wasn't an unpopular opinion in the beginning. and that dynamic of just following is what I find wolf-like about her. and as I've already expressed, I just think their style of playing seems to be kinda planned. While villagers often overthink certain situations, wolves are often more stringent in their way of argumentation, I also see that here.

However, if you understand my concerns but do not share my conclusion. What is your conclusion?

To me it seemed as if you argue along the lines of: Coco tries to put me in a bad light with super weak (and partly wrong) arguments, so he must be wolf. For me, it would not be the first time I see a villager using shady ways to express their gut feeling. Also, wolves would be more cautious about the correctness of their justifications, wouldn't they?

Btw, why should the fact that you're the only one raising this change my opinion about the quality of your argument?

My conclusion about Coco in general is that he just has a highly subjective playstyle. It would kind of surprise me if Coco put himself in a special position like that as a werewolf.

Hi Ashley!

What is shady about Caboose?

I'm back! Time to summarize some random thoughts:

- I really understand the Pearl-villager train. Her attitude is very positive, her posts are good in quality and she makes some serious efforts to push the game forward. I have to say that I'm glad to have her as our leader.

- I understand Dinah's concerns about Coco. There are some serious problems with Coco's interpretation of some situations. I agree that there are some flaws in his reasoning, but to be honest, I can hardly imagine a werewolf deliberatly trying to force a bad picture on someone in such a way. I find it a bit surprising that Dinah finds that suspicious. It seems like a too easy conclusion to me.

- Flat Top's introduction somehow striked me as very unusual, which I noted slightly positive in my head. I will have to go back to see what exactly it was.

- I don't like Ruhrgold's overly cautious comment about Electra's introduction. I don't share his opinion and it seems hardly necessary to state that it might change, unless he wants an insurance for the future.

- Volta seems a bit lost. Strangely enough, it invoked a feeling in me that he might be a villager. I would like to hear some impressions of Skyl4rk though. Just drop me some opinions. About Coco, Pearl, Dinah, I don't care.

The rest didn't stand out to me.

I take back what I said about Pearl, since my personality read seems to be wrong anyways.

For now, I'll just drop my vote here and comment the recent posts later.

VOTE: Coco

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Verbleibende Zeit: 02:19:33

X4ps: Yes, of course we somehow have to get discussions going, but I still think that people should think about how useful their content really is. In Buffy's example, it really seemed like a generic post which wolves write if they want to seem present and interested in the game without actually saying a lot.

Yes, I know that it's hard to apply a general measure to all players because everyone is different, but I have to start somewhere.

And sure, you could also argue that a wolf might think about their posts more carefully but in my opinion, this is doesn't apply here, since there is nothing obviously wrong with that post.

I like Buffy's second a bit more, but it's still not convincing. I didn't like that he didn't even bother sharing a gut feeling about people with less than 5 posts. Seems a bit lazy and furthermore, I really don't think that people with less posts are automatically harder to evaluate.

It's actually quite funny that you mention Pearl, and I have to agree that she's over the top. I didn't take it into consideration though, because I somehow instantly attributed it to her personality. Do you disagree?

nomadischer Händler: Yeah I don't really agree to your thoughts about Turnov. The difference between him and Buffy is that his first post is more obviously irrelevant to the game which makes him seem less tense, but at the end of the day, it's not something that I would give the villager-attitude label.

nomadischer Händler: I haven't found a good reason to exclude that possibility, but it's quite unlikely anyway.

Juwel: Makes sense. What did you like about his first post? I have to say that I also liked his start, but his second post seemed more villager-like to me than the first (which was quite standard tbh).

Sir Ansbach: You might confuse self-confident with self-conscious.

Sir Ansbach: Yeah, of course the game will be distorted by this phenomenon. What I was trying to say is that we can probably have more accurate images of everyone's fraction if people (especially villagers) don't try to play someone they are not. Speaking for myself, I can't simply not judge the style and tone of a person and I assume that some other people feel the same, so I'm just trying to make things more pleasant.

(I'm not telling you that you shouldn't try to hide your identity as a player btw)

Juwel: Why did you ask Dinah about Caboose specifically?

Hi everyone!

I hope that this is going to be a fun game!

I don't want to be your leader (The issue is time) and I guess I'll have to wait for quite a bit until I can make a good decision. For now, Greaseball's introduction seems almost too cute, but it's also kind of funny and relatable and that's why I could see awarding her villager points for that.

Ah yeah, sorry if I assume anyone's gender wrong, but that's just the way it works for me. If you feel offended, let me know by writing a lot of subtly hostile comments to my posts

Btw, Buffy's post seems quite weak to me. He kinda likes Greaseball's post which is fine, but there is nothing in his post that stands out to me whatsoever. Why is this post there anyway? Couldn't you wait until you can say more about the game?

Coco - I like him quite a lot. The format of his posts is refeshing and I agree to almost everything he says. (The inflationary usage of the word fuck is the only thing that bothers me a bit, but apart from that: Keep going!)

Dinah seems, like Greaseball, a bit over the top to me - It's really hard to assess posts if they are written in an intenionally exaggerated mood. The roleplay is fine and all, but unless you want to hide something, dear Dinah, I'd prefer you to phrase your posts a bit more neutrally

(strangely, it bothered me less in Greaseball's post. Maybe because it seemed more natural?)

That's it for now!

Danke Alohomora für das Spiel und Arduinna für die wunderschönen Texte

GW an die Menschen, wirklich gut gespielt vor allem von Sirius und Fenriswolf

meine Vermutungen die ich auch Alo schrieb, waren anfangs:

Isegrim

Hati/Skalli

Gmork

Carchaoth

Remus Lupin

Sirius

Akela

mehr hab ich nicht

außer

Nymeria

Zitat von Gmork

ich stimme nur sehr sehr ungerne gegen jemanden, den ich nicht explitzi wolfig habe.

nö, du stimmst nur ab, wenn du falsch liegst - auch ne Methode

sag mal liest du eigentlich mit?

egal wie, erlöse mich letzter Böser, damit ich das klägliche Ende wenigstens tot erlebe!

Ist wohl doch Ede - aber gut gespielt, also kein Ding

Zitat von Ede Wolf

Wobei ich mir nicht sicher bin, ob er keine Zeit hat oder einfach nichts scheibt, aber schon am mitlesen ist.

sicher wohl auch keine Zeit, aber es sollte langsam klar sein, dass es Gmork so ziemlich piepsegal ist, ob er gewinnt oder verliert oder ob, wenn er gut ist, seine MitLieben wegen ihm verlieren oder wenn er Böse ist, sein Team mit ihm verliert. Das ist halt das Problem immer und so kann man nicht vernünftig spielen.

Ich hab auch manchmal keine Kraft mehr /gerade einen Todesfall der mich psycheich echt runterzieht, dazu noch ein vereitertes Kinn, wo ich jeden Augenblick mit dem Notarzt rechne, falls sich der Eiter abkapselt und in die Blutbahn gelangt. Bin hundemüde, da ich aus Todesangst nicht schlafen kann. Aber ich bemühe mich trotzdem.

Ich habe einfach keine Lust gegen Gmork zu verlieren mit dem Spiel, wenn er Böse ist und es einfach aussitzt.

Zitat von Ede Wolf

Aber irgendwie macht das das Ende ja auch spannend, um das Positive darin zu sehen

ich sehe da echt nichts Positives, wenn jemand nicht mitspielt, aber seinen Pflichtpost macht.

Lieber verliere ich dieses Spiel gegen einen Bösen von euch beiden als gegen Gmork - sorry

Noch zwei Böse wüsste ich nicht, wie das gehen könnte - mit Dir HD Dar0 - müsste doch dann eigentlich entschieden sein für die Bösen

muss mir da nochmal die Angaben zum Spielende durchlesen, was showdown ist - ist ja leider nicht verlinkt und muss es bei wiki raussuchen.

Aber eigentlich egal - ich werde wohl bei meinem vote auf Gmork bleiben auch wenn die lieben Wölfe mich nach dem Spiel verurteilen hauen oder sonstwas.

Das mit dem übernachten bei Fenris oben vergesst mal. dDie Zwillinge haben ja wahrscheinlich bei Sirius gepennt