Game 174 | Preparation for Mafia Championship | English Game by Alohomora | wolves win

VOTE: Ling

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Zitat von Alexa

Woah what happened now xD

it started with me voting for Buchzauber, bcs i thought he was more sus then the other

->Sunset got only voted by Daro bcs he was afk, but since he started writing again, there was no reason on hitting on him

then Ling voted on him, even there was no reason to do it, and fast switched to Buch, which was a realy sus to me

and with Daro's Leaderroles on Ling, i switched to support Daro, since i trusted him, sadly we both failed hard on it.

After knowing that he was healer, no wonder that he didnt care to throw a townie under the bus, the healer should survive...

But without that knowledge he realy acted weird

Zitat von Leon

And I missed the Lynch again... 8pm is really not my time

Would the changes in the last minute, change your vote, if you had seen them live ?

Zitat von Alexa

Zitat von einhornlasagne

Zitat von Alexa

You could vote Book too Lasagna, you said she's sus earlier today

How do you feel about Leon voting book? Yesterday Daro voting for me was a deal-breaker, but Leon isn't?

I won't try to assess Leon this round, I'll ignore him and lynch him if my teams don't make sense

i realy would like to hear your new teams now

Zitat von Alexa

Sharky my man, I'd like to hear your suspects too

Lucky that two of my pupils called a no show for today, so i have time now

a lot of my thoughts from my #7th post still are true

1. Alexa

   either im getting bought in cheaply (which sadly happened in RL games to often), or i would go with you as new-Daro vibes, but with more chaos

   
   

2. ChunkShark

   who even would kill the new player on the first lynch or night... even if its the "smart" choice, no older player would ever do that to a new community member...

   
   

3. Daro - HD - Vanilla town, NK 2

   like i suspected a townie

   
   

4. einhornlasagne
5. Ente

6. Buchzauber

   all 3 seem to me kinda likely that they are townies, but i feel that one of them is a secret furry, otherwise my teams dont match up (if Jadio is not a wolf)

   
   

7. Jadio

   as active as LB, as usefull as a blank paper..., if he is a wolf, then the last one will prob. be a realy active player)

   
   

8. LB123 - Werwolf, assassin kill N2

   no idea how the assassin even found him... lucky hit ? bcs i cant find ANYthing of information in his posts, and no teams

   
   

9. Ling - Healer, Lynch 1

   somehow the whole town ran with it, i dont even think that the wolves had to much to help with him getting voted

   
   

10. Sunset
11. Leon

12. Xsí - HD 2

    i would say behind those 3 is a wolf, if Jadio is a wolf as well, i would exclude Sunny, if not i would go more towards Sunny

    
    

    i feel like the most entropy to gain for us lays with Sunset or Jadio

    
    

Zitat von Ente

Because I reflected his behavior, strategical analyzing and came to the conclusion that I dont like that.

I think i spider... what am i reading here ?

I am a man of science, how can you disregard the truth of public information ?

Zitat von einhornlasagne

Zitat von Leon

So what?? Like literally why does it matter if we can confirm the role through the one claiming it dying? Give me a single scenario where that's important.

I'd love to, but I'm this case it's on you to think all of this through. But I get where your are coming from if you're townie.

Thats actually not quite true, there is a reason why role calling is important, but i cant explaint it, because it will defeat its purpose... *math will prove it true*

Oh wait, i did read the text from leon wrong, yes dying is not the thing that gives Information, its the role call itself

Zitat von Alexa

Why is shark that high? Hes playing dead rn

And who would be in a team with Book?

sry, due to my working field my job starts around noon and then goes late

and before work i was hoping to let you and leon go wild, that we get some more information from you two

Zitat von Sunset

Zitat von ChunkShark

Sunset
Leon

Xsí - HD 2

i would say behind those 3 is a wolf, if Jadio is a wolf as well, i would exclude Sunny, if not i would go more towards Sunny

i feel like the most entropy to gain for us lays with Sunset or Jadio

ChunkShark Do you still want to go more towards me since Jadio was a townie and could you please tell me why? What has Jadio to do with me?

And sry, but googling Entrophy doesn't really gave me the clue what that word means. Do you think we get information out of a lynch of mine or Jadio or what is the most entrophy thing?

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Yes, the idea was with you two, it was the highest probability to find the group of werewolves

No worry, i dont expect anyone to realy do a deep dive into this, since it gets pretty complicated realy fast and dosnt slow down

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theory (there is also a german article on this )

Entropy (information theory) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But, if you have 30min of Time, i recommend this Video from 3Blue1Brown, hes an awesome channel for anything mathematical

Zitat von Alexa

Zitat von einhornlasagne

So, is Leon a wolf, or is he townie?

Idk

If Xsi and Book were wolf it'd be a bit strange that they didn't say anything while Leon, Sunny and I were talking

Also ChunkShark i thought you already put me into your town?

when did i say something else ?

but i am not just thinking in single players but in player combinations, so your town-probability (which is high, yes), is still dependet on the probability of the others and your connection between them

Zitat von Alexa

Sharky where are the wolves in this game?

VOTE: Leon

i would say here

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and i am not even sure if i trust his vote on Buch, bcs its realy unlikely to be doing a difference, if he gets lynched anyway, so it could be a pseudo-alibi for him

Zitat von einhornlasagne

At the moment, that would mean we have the full village here (hi, I'm the freemason) Also, it means I was right and am not that terrible at playing werewolf as I thought

i was already wondering if the real freamason died and we are two villagers or just one... but since i am a basic bitch villager...

Zitat von Buchzauber

Zitat von einhornlasagne

I mean, nice to see I did not miss anything while sleeping and reading (no neccessarily in that order). I also read Sunny, ChunkShark and Book and I have some opinions. But I'm dying to know who's the vanilly townie, so I'll wait a bit

I am does that help you with your thoughts?

finally i can reveal the real information of the role call:

a wolf claimed a roll that exists only once, so the real person knows he is evil... we dont care about anyone else then book and me now, bcs he is a dirty little liar

so we eliminated 3 out of 5 person to be not important right now, and only need to hit one wolf

VOTE: Buchzauber

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VOTE: Sunset

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Zitat von einhornlasagne

Zitat von ChunkShark

Ah, greetings my fellow Villagers, united we stand against those pesky furries.

Well said, fellow villager!

Wow, I just convinced myself I'm a wolf talking like that

*cough* and i thought there it was already over

Zitat von Leon

Gratz, and well played Xsí  ChunkShark ! Definitely deserve the win, I really underestimated Shark there... imo became a little more obvious on the last day, but probably I'm just thinking that, because I asked Alo. But you definitely fooled me. Obviously Xsí played well too.

Btw Alexa I don't think your english is that bad.

einhornlasagne still interested why it's relevant, that we don't get to know if it was actually him, when executing the freemason.

And of course thanks Alo, I really enjoyed the english game, and also interesting to play with outing active for once!

Ling My gut told me, that your last post really looked like you healed me, and wouldn't have been too unlikely.. but yeah, could've just said it out loud.

no you are right, today my motivation was kinda down bcs with two players not realy there and xsi being HD, the victory was already sealed

Zitat von Alohomora

End of game

You finally manage to lynch Sunset, she is the old man.
Congratulations to arctic wolf Xsí and werwolf ChunkShark who overrun freemason einhornlasagne and vanilla town Buchzauber!

i realy cant believe that we didnt hit the old man on the first day, Xsi attacked Leon and he wasnt dead, i thought the chance for a random heal was to low, also i thought a healer was more likely to heal himself on the first day, so if we attack him, we think he's the old man

Zitat von Ente

Heyho.

GGs to the wolves.

I still dont understand how everybody Had shark in town.

Bcs of my lovely german smile, dont you see it ?

Also how the heck did you find LB, or was it a random guess ? Bcs i wasnt lying, when i said i have no idea

Zitat von Ling

Zitat von ChunkShark

i realy cant believe that we didnt hit the old man on the first day, Xsi attacked Leon and he wasnt dead, i thought the chance for a random heal was to low, also i thought a healer was more likely to heal himself on the first day, so if we attack him, we think he's the old man

Man kann finde ich den Fraß auch Nacht 1 schon ziemlich gut eingrenzen. Von mir kam nicht viel, Buch, LB, Jadio und eigentlich auch Sunny zu inaktiv.

Xsi hat seit langer Zeit nicht gespielt. Hielt ich schon für möglich, aber nicht wahrscheinlich.

Alexa in einem Übungsspiel für sie hielt ich auch für sehr unwahrscheinlich.

Daro wurde letzte Runde die ersten zwei Nächte gefressen, was viele Wölfe dann auch vermieden hätten und die Gefahr gegen Schutz zu rennen, weil er im Konsensdorf war, wäre mMn auch hoch gewesen.

Habe da eigentlich nur zwischen Leon/Ente >Sunny/Xsi überlegt.

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Ok, dann weiter auf Deutsch

Also für mich ist dieses ganze "alte Spiele durchsuchen" etwas schwierig, gerade als Neuling macht es die Einstiegshürde absolut gigantisch, daher habe ich es komplett ignoriert, aber leider auch viele eurer "Begründungen" nicht verstanden.

Und ich wollte vielleicht in der ersten Nacht LB fressen....