Beiträge von Juwel

Zitat von Turnov

I think, Pearl and Coco acted strange, but Pearl is the person I think is worse. Because the execution yesterday wherte Pearl gave the deciding vote is strange to me.

Alright you can have the opinion but please try to stay updated in the game. You caqn find me suspicious but what have you done for the village? I cannot see it! So in case you actually want to participate in the game then please say something else than that!
I am not proud of yesterday but I am proud of the day before. And these reactions of you are really weird and somehow suspicious... I mean a villager also reads the night posts, so come on!

Zitat von Coco

Im almost convinced that Turnov is a villager! How can you be in such a way... besides everything that happens here?!? I am furious but still think it's a mistake to vote for him!

I think that he is lying... I mean everyone reads at least the SL posts at some point and then thinks about the information in there.. And buffy wrotet her solution on the same game page than the post in which Rusty died, so its kind of easy to find...

Zitat von Joule

Flat Top is pretty much on the border between my village and my wolves. He shares that position with Buffy who I found more positive in the recent posts.

I totally understand you there and I think Buffy is definitely more villager than flat top

Zitat von Joule

Please coordinate your lynch today.

working on it, although I am pretty sure I might switch. But I am planning to do so within the next 20 minutes.

Zitat von Coco

oule is right, Pearl and me need to talk to each other to reach a consensus. I had exactly this idea before, and I think maybe this makes Joule more villagery?

I don't think so since any wolf would also try to have us on their side... we two should work together but I fear my opinion is not that good at the moment or not enough developed yet.
Besides my rather villagers of the moment: Ashley, buffy (Joule)

Zitat von Coco

What does Pearl think about my thoughts I wonder?

I am happy for every thought that you write down! I am still really unsure about the lynch candidates... do you want to hear something about a specific person?

I read Buffy as wished. I think she is rather a villager than a werewolf at least in the way she presented herself she looked really motivated, looking for team exclusions, conclusions and suspicious sentences of others. For me not really the werewolf I was looking for.

Zitat von Buffy

aand if Joule wolf, Electra is one too, but that also is valid the other way round

Is that still valid? I guess not but do you remember why you were thinking that?

Zitat von Buffy

Ok, so in my opinion that speaks against a Rusty and Joule team, but I am pretty sure, that at least one of them is a wolf.

Joule is now in your village I think, but you mentionned before why one of them should be a wolf, so why now not anymore? Although I am also doubting Joule is a wolf.

Zitat von Buffy

I'm not a sect leader, I don't want to convince anybody of anything, just wanted to make my point xD

And I'm not even saying that your 100% Wolf or anything like that.

Besides, I might have gone crazy anyways, because nobody seem to understand my opinions xD

This is one of the posts I liked from Buffy, she seems really honest to me. I can't help, I find her trustworthy

Zitat von Buffy

dunno...he has the same aggressive defense like Rusty. I mean it's part of the game to suspect someone, so don't be mad, if you get suspected xD I even like to play with that a little bit (getting suspected, not with them getting mad lol)
But part from that more negative than positive vibes. Although as mentioned, I do not really have a plan. I'm really insecure this game, sry.

You said that about caboose. What do you think about that now that Rusty was a villager?

Zitat von Buffy

Looool ok, I've to admit, I would kiss Joule for this post, think he's villager xD (Nevertheless if I was that self-aware, I would've seen my "my-me"-mistake:P)

What did you like so much about Joule on that post btw?

Zitat von Buffy

This is the reason why I would say that Caboose isn't wolf with Tunov. It is not the fact, that it is a vote against tunov, but Carbosse already had an legit reason not to vote him. So why voting your teammate, although you have an excuse not to do so and on the lynchlist are only villager in danger?

MHm iirc Caboose had Turnov already longer as a suspicious person and not really another one so negative. Correct me if I am worng but I found it logical that this was the only person he could have voted. I am anyway thinking that there are some leveling wolves here since the situation for them besides the Ruhdgold lynch doesn't look too bad, depending on who they are and how much.

Zitat von Coco

I am convinced that she is a villager,

Why so sure about wrench?


I think my problem is that Ashley seems to be too good and looks like a villager, Buffy looks to honest and wrench has some parts that also look honest too me.

But that would mean that Joule, Caboose, Turnov and flattop are the wolves... of which I am not sure.


But nevermind, back to Buffy

- I had one point where I disagreed, that caboose would sound too sure in a post saying that me and Joule are villager. I found him authentic or at least normal in that post. I still don't understand what made buffy so crazy about that but I think the fact that she did made her more likely to be a villager for me. As said before there are many tendencys said, team exclusions made, things she liked, didn't liked etc. All in all also quite some content that I liked.

I just did not Liked Buffy around the lynch yesterday, and thats probably a big minus point she got. I am not sure whether only wolves can sound like that or also villagers,I found her very confusing and not so good. Although I can understand her if she is a villager and not so happy that I was so inactive and late yesterday.

The way buffy presented herself today also seemed villager like to me... I have to figure out who is thinking of who now, maybe that gives me more insights. And I will try to read caboose again and finally made up my mind to flat top.

Zitat von Coco

Dear diary,

recalling what Flat Top said I don't have any reason why he should be a villager.

Furthermore, I don't think that he is wolf with Joule (first quote: it would be rather unusual to call out three villagers and in a separate sentence a co-wolf.

Finally, in my opinion a team between Flat Top and Buffy is rather unlikely, not only because of the vote, yesterday and today. Flat Top's sometimes raises doubts and counter-arguments, but still wants to have Buffy dead.

So you don't see anything that makes him a villager but you see him more likely as one as Buffy? And there are rather not a team so you think Buffy is wolfe and if thats right, flat top is not?

I am kind of back, I am still reading buffy for now. I had some feelings today that she might be villager, but I am unsure

Anybody there? Would be nice If we can get the disscussion a bit more running. I was actually seing myself in there more active aswell but for some reason I am not that productive today as I wanted to be.

I have read Flat top and Ashley (only half) so far and Turnov multiple times (wasn't that much in comparison to the others).

I did not remembered that Ashley had such a start, WOW! Lots of posts on Sunday moring with lots of opnions in there and I really like that motivation in there. For some reason my first impression was sceptical on Sunday, but rereading her made me actually felt quite the opposite.

Ashley:
- Coco und Pearl villagers

want to interact more with others before evaluating, votes Rusty
- likes Joules way of playing although no village points for that

- Caboose suspect

- Dinah TE Coco and does not understad Dinahs critics since she likes Cocos playing style

- Cabooses Posts often about Greaseball, pearl and joule as a villager seems easy conclusions
- likes to interact with me

-liked first post of wrench

- likes Electra

- Rusty is not a random vote, wants reactions and activity

- Coco is in middle of focos, likes her impressions, makes her more villager-like

- Dinah villager

- not convinced by ruhrgold
#116 open to unvote when Rusty is more active
#119: wants impressions from caboose

'121 wants opinion of me to Buffy, Turnov, Flat top
thinks voting rusty is not false

#125 some good points in flat top posts

#136: likes buffys sescriptions of Turnov but does not help her to conclude her opinion
not sure whether Joule is a wolf
feels often on line with wrench

#141: Buffy not wolf with coco & caboose , coco no wolfe, maybe caboose but unsure
Electra and Buffy possible but not favourites for the lynch
Turnov or Ruhrgold might be wolf, Rusty is to inactive

villagers: Pearl, Coco, Dinah, Wrench, maybe joule and electra
Vote Ruhrgold.

I know this is only till page 9 or so, so not even till the first lynch. But it already showed me that Ashley is really good in the game even though she said in the beginning that she was quite unsure how to start. She is saying something to nearly all players, interacts with different ones, gives her opnion and all in all I don't see any mistakes or any weird things. Maybe this is a nearly too perfect play and she was just so good in giving an opinion on everyone because she is wolf and has all these informations, we don't have so far. But to be honest, I had the impression that she is a villager that is good and able to develop quickly an opinion on someone.

There are certain people here that I would consider to be able to play in such a self-confident way as a werewolf, but I just hope that Ashley is not that type of player. She rather reminds me of myself when I have to reread what happens after not beeing present for some hours.

I am really unsure whether underestimate Ashley, but her start is really villager-like and therefore I don't want to vote her today.

Please nomadischer Händler share your ashley thoughts with me or show me the posts where you said why ashley is so suspicious to you. We two kind of have to work together and at the moment I am still unsure who to vote today. A bit like yesterday. but so far I am feeling comfortablw with having ashley as avillager. If someone sees suspicious things in her later posts today or yesterdasy please let me now!


Reading through flattop took me a couple of hours and I still haven't good any conclusion besides the silly one that I felt the flat top of the first day was a different one than the later one And for some reason liked the hangovered first one more ( no offense)... silly I know but I saw a big change, from being relaxed and confident to being a bit unsure, more emotionally etc later on. I don't know why and I don't know whether this is important and makes a difference in my evaluations.

And I found it hard to evaluate his rather emotional reactions sometimes inbetween Some felt a bit too much but depending on his character understandable.

I have to go now for about an hour, really sorry for that. I will try to say more to flattop afterwards.

I wanted to vote earlier today so, for now VOTE:Turnov he did not show much motivation today, at least I couldn't get a thing out of his post. He seems very suspect to me, he can be a villager, I am really unsure but as long as I haven't really got a conclusion on flat top I will vote him and hope for some more input in the next three hours.

Sry, I will be online around 6 again till 7ish and then only a bit

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Verbleibende Zeit: 02:46:41

@All: Do you think Turnov is trying to manipulate us or does he really not know why Coco and I should be villagers?

and Dar0 you did not really answer to my question. Did you see Joule now sceptical or not? What is your opinion at the moment? Any ideas who is a werewolf?

Zitat von Joule

Is it so important that you figure out my alignment instantly? I don't know how to help you with it and for me, your posts are not really helpful if I'm the person you think about the most. I would appreciate to read more of your thoughts about Buffy, Wrench, Caboose, Ashley, Flat Top and Turnov.

No not at all. You were just a lot in my mind since you are quite active in the game and I just really would like to figure out whether you are a wolve or not since I think that you can be that kind of person who really manages to influence others and therefore it might be easier for me to follow your posts and your opinion when my thought are more structured and I have a better overviwe of you. You are also one of the most active persons in the game so I think it gets quite important to at least have a more secure feeling about you.

And I am planning to write more to everyone, just takes a while.

I have some questions to Turnov:

Dar0 you said about Joule that she might be in a possible team with me (who you actually seemd to have rather as a villager than wolve), why did you say that Joule seems to reflect and searching for wolves but still leaves a bad feeling? How can you put these things together that seem quite oppositional to me?
And why thinking of possible teams of me (with joule or coco) when you actually don't see me as a wolve?

I would also be really interested in opinions of you to everyone since so far you only had a small positive opinions on me, Coco, Electra, Dinah and a negative feeling by Joule and slightly caboose. Did these impressions changed?
Btw: Why did you voted Caboose saying you have a slightly negative impression but also a negative feeling on Joule? Isn't a bad feeling worse than a slightly negative impression?

Zitat von Ashley

Don't know but if I'm werewolf and another wolf makes rubbish, I like to use sarcasm to critize him on a natural way. And there are also some other player I saw it so far. At the other side from Turnov to Rheingold, I think it would fit as a team.

I also realised that now. When I wrote my post yesterday and reflected my thoughts about the four possible lynches that had some votes, I was also thinking that I have some points for Turnov and I really wish I would have relied on them. I mean there nearly couln't have been a worser candidate for the lynch then Rusty.
But Ruhrgold did not criticise Turnov weird thoughts he just laught about them. For some reason I felt unsure there yesterday and I am still not sure which of my first impressions I should follow. I will let you know when I come to a conclusion.

I am really really motivated today to find another werewolve! So I will try to put as much time in the game as possible and I am planning to set a vote at the latest in the afternoon since I am a bit busy tonight but I should be able to be at least online in case I am needed. But I don't think that ninja votes are good at that point of the game so I will avoid them as much as possible.

For a start, I have been thinking a lot about Joule and I will think more about her today since she seems really hard to categorise. I haven't reread her completely yet, but so far I haven't found a definite villager sign and probably there is none. But I started to go through Ruhrgold again. Ruhrgolds first evaluation that he did was about Joule... which made me really sceptical. All in all he only left an opinion on Joule, Greaseball (but unsure), Electra, said something to Dinah and asked her about me, and he didn't liked Ashleys first vote. If Joule is a villager he only had positive feelings about three villager and a negative one about Ashley who also voted him... It is possible for a wolve to only say something and interact with five villager ( including dinah as a third party). The way I would assume Ruhrgold plays, I don't really think that the first thing he does is saying on saturday morning his co wolve Joule seems to be a villager. But this is the only thing I can actually get out of Ruhrgold and that he criticised Ashleys first vote on Rusty. If I remember correctly, Ruhrgold was not the first player criticising Ashleys start so he was kind of swimming with the crowd here or am I wrong? Ashley just started in a unusual way, I would say it gives Ashley a villager point that he criticised one of her first actions. On the other hand protecting Ashley would not have fitted to the unsure way he presented himself. But he could have just said nothing aswell and thats what is probably more likely in case Ashley would be co-wolf. Not sure about that though.
-> Ruhrgold seems to set Ashley and Joule in a rather villager light would be my conclusions at the moment. But I might not weight that too much since I am quite unsure on that so far. At least it gives a first direction.
More will follow later.

Why can't Joule be a wolve?

Zitat von Electra

Thats quite wolf-like imo.

I wont doubt Pearl the next ~2 days either way.

well Buffy already doubted today in some of her posts, not really surprising. At least coco can't be as mad at me since she also voted then for Rusty, She probably should not as I should have voted someone else. I truly understand all the negative comments that might come now.

Really sorry Rusty although it does not make it better at all. Seems like the worst person I could have choosen.

I will go in my corner and cry, see you maybe tomorrow... I really should follow my feelings after rereading someone

Thanks for unmaking the tie Coco!
I really hope I did not messed everything up

I am sooo sorry. I have really no clue who to vote. I was even thinking of buffy again but I don't like the people voting her.

I think I will go for VOTE:Rusty
Allthough I think I am really wrong with that. I really should vote earlier to not be the one who has to decide

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Verbleibende Zeit: 00:02:21

Zitat von Buffy

And so Volta is the only person left to vote

Don't think so

What is going on here? I am so confused!!!

Zitat von Coco

I would love to see Pearl's vote since it is more important than usual when few people vote.

Me too

Alright, looking at the lynch list so far:

Well I read Rusty and I found him kind of honest and not really werewolve like. I saw quite some opinion in his posts today, not the last ones, they really confused me and I felt like I could only understand half of them and also don't get why he postet that instead of normal sentences?

I was reading through Turnov earlier today, there were some things I did not understand, like for example how he can find Joule searcing, reflekting but then still her post leave a bad feeling? For me that is quite contrasting, either someone really looks searching and therefore villager-like or not. Another think I did not understand was how he can have me quite positive, at least thats something he said, giving me small village points to than lateron put me in different werewolve teams? I also had the feeling that in case he is wolve, Coco might be one too since I did not liked the way he evaluated her. Left me a slightly bad feeling.
But I found him not really teamy with Ruhrgold since Ruhrgold reacted to his assumption that the mans in this game are the werewolves with a comment and some smileys. But I guess thats only a small reason. But still why should he say he believes in male werewolves when he is one and at least his character male aswell?

Does not really fit for me. Although this is kind of my most suspicious person

Reading through volta also didn't gave me a strong feeling for either wolve or villager. The passage pover Coco and me criticising Greaseball was really weird, but why should a wolve reflect the person he just ate? Also this I hope coco would be smarter as a villager than that was really weird? Furthermore the other thinking about the night kill was suspicious but not really suitable as a werewolves unless it was his goal to leave this impression.

Buffy as menntionned before seems to be a rather relaxed villager who just writes whatever comes to her mind. Not really an option for me today

Ok that helped me absolutely nothing. I will look at the standing now and then rethink again.

Sry for being late and indecesive

Zitat von Rusty

So many ppl are talkin bout Turnov being a possible wolf , but no one is really voting them?

Did you draw a conclusion from that observation?

Zitat von Coco

I'm a little bit struggling with Pearl's assumptions about regular wolf and villager play. Why should a wolf (Rusty, to be more specific) be more actively involved in the game? And why should a villager have better thoughts?

Well depending on the conditions but in some games I found it easier to get into when I was a werewolve than as a villager. But it really depends on the content and anonymous games are anyway special and more difficult.
Well villagers can have unique thoughts or feeling and are usually not swimming with all the others. Even if the conclusions are teh same, that someone is a villager, usually the reasons for that are a bit different. But I guess its hard to say and probably not even possible to really devide here between rather wolve-like or villager-like behaviour in a usual game since this is special.

Zitat von Buffy

Vote earlier, dunno. But it's an action that could've come from a HD-Wolf as well

You're right. For today I won't be able to do it better and I hope you don't see me negative because of that. I will try to be earlier tomorrow.

Zitat von Wrench

this post just proved for me that Joule is a villager. I rly liked his thoughts there

+1

Zitat von Joule

Anyway, sorry if you took it personally. I'm very happy about your decision

No worries, I am not that affected by things like that. I am happy too and I will as promised give my best today aswell.

No Panic, your leader is almost there!!

I have to say I like it that there are more votes there today, I am just not sure whether I like the distribution of them, but I will try to vote as quickly as possible. I am sadly still busy with thinking, reading and drawing conclusions.

Zitat von Flat Top

I don't understand how you got to that no-team conclusion.

Can you explain that a little bit more?

Ruhrgold-buffy I would say its more likely that Buffy for some reason just liked him or his introduction as a villager than really as a wolve. Since as a wolve most people are more careful and usually only put a cowolve saver if there are reasons for that. Buffy seemed at that point not really like a person that actually thought very long about that opinion and how she could justify her thoughts. Which makes it for me a bit more likely hat buffy is not a teammate to Ruhrgold. I see her anyway not too bad so far I think. She reminds me of some players that usually just write whatever they are thinking no matter whether it could be suspicious or not.

Zitat von Flat Top

What do you think was better today?

I have nothing there in mind that showed up specific villagery.

about Ashley, I don't know, yesterday evening I was unsure and rather wanted to vote with my villagers Joule and Electra but I felt more comfortable with Ruhrgold as a lynch. I think Ashley showed on both days that she is thinking a lot, drawing conclusions and trying to show what she means, generates activity and reactions. I would consider her to be a villager. I think also her reaction after the lynch seemed authentic, unless I am not messing her up with someone else? Nevertheless, I think all in all she is different but quite good so far. Might be different when I read her again but I guess this is not the right time for rethinking everyone.

Zitat von Flat Top

As is said i tried my best!

I think you are doing well. I liked you in the beginning ( cannot remember why, but there must have been a reason) and some of your posts show that you are thinking and trying to be present in the game. For now you are totally fine

Zitat von Ashley

Hm okay, I'm surprised about that. It felt so far that you trust me and votet because of this on Ruhrgold.

No, I am mostly not really looking on who voted who, but since there were only so few voted yesterday I was quite unsure. And you were not really my favourite villager at least not a person I would trust instantly. I am really more having my own mind

Zitat von Ashley

Can me say somebody some striking point about Dinah. She's a little bit out of my focus today.

Iirc Dinah had a quite authentic reaction to the lynch yesterday and some good thoughs throughout the game aswell. Maybe not as much as others but all in all with her start, the way she defended herself in the beginning and so on, I had the impression that she is a good person

Zitat von Ashley

Furtermore I like Flat tops actual activity, Wrench posts today I liked.

Do you only liked flat tops activity or also the content or the style of his posts?


So villagers for today: Joule, Electra, wrench, Dinah, Ashley,

there were some things I liked in buffys Posts and I would see her rather villager like than wolves.

Coco is active, villager-like but I am not really sure so far whether I am right there.

Hello everyone! I am still at work, well doing home office, so somehow working, but I should have enough time tonight!

Zitat von Buffy

Ok, so in my opinion that speaks against a Rusty and Joule team, but I am pretty sure, that at least one of them is a wolf.

Joules seems to my quite wolfish (you know, the other translations for that word are quite funny xD)

I can't really follow your thoughts. Rusty might be a wolve (although I am asking myself why he wouldn't be able to participate more as a wolf in the game instead of not being able to get into it better... I mean being a wolf is hard but you have teammates that can help ya and there should be always something to say even with less time. ). What I don't understand is how you think that Joule could be a wolve? Her posts seem quite logical to me and maybe the one before the lynch can be faked but the rest? I am thinking a lot about her and Electra since I am unsure whether both of them might be good in manipulating others and doing unpredictable things, but for me yesterday evening and their posts speaks for them being a villager. Probably I am now a more favourite of Electra than joule ( yesterday was the other way around), but I do think that Joule is positive.
So I would be really interested in hearing what you don't like about her posts since she had quite many with lots of content in them.

Zitat von Electra

Wrench: ++ (Especially her last posts seems villager-like to me. For example the reaction to buffy feels like a typical villager uncetainty (and is authentic to me))

I agree on that, seems authentic to me aswell

Zitat von Electra

Joule: +/- (at the moment, I again dont know how I feel about her. It's a bit like a rollercoaster ride, as I get villager and also a few (but rather less) wolf vibes from her )

Same as buffy: Where did you get the wolf vibes? (All I feel is villager vibes and paranoia)

Zitat von Wrench

still no fan of rusty, just rly seems to be either not in game or dont wanting to be in game

I had the same impression although as menntionned above, I really don't understand why he shouldn't get in the game as a wolve... On the other hand villager usually have more individual thoughts and feelings unless they really just focos on the active players... I am really unsure when it come to Rusty since he is defending himself kind of wolves like, not bringing much new thoughts and all in all a bit unmotivated and desperate?

Zitat von Flat Top

what do you say about buffys - ruhrgold tendency?

Rather no team than a team but I would actually not validate that too much

Zitat von Electra

Thats great! I would have wondered otherwise.

Made my day You are quite funny

Zitat von Buffy

Tbh, I think I'm going to reread the lynch, because I've got an Aluhat to that

Aluhat, funny aswell. I don't think I share your conclusions, although you are right that It does not draw a good light on myself to vote so late. I am not gonna apologize for that, since it was also a bit my plan to get reactions to that. And I have to say, the outcome was better than I thought (of the lynch, the reactions were quite predictable)

But whoever said that my vote was pure luck, thats not nice at all! Especially since half of the people that person listet, I would not have votet. Nevertheless, I wasn't sure with Ruhrgold, but I can ensure you that I was thinking about everything quite long so that my vote was not out of the blue. But I did not liked ashleys vote there to be honest. Today she is doing better than yesterday but I am still a bit unsure.

Zitat von Buffy

Well, gg to Ruhrgold, I still like his entry-posts xD

??

Zitat von Electra

I like that post from Flat Top. Seems totally authentic and motivated

I disagree. For me it was a bit too much of the drama and not so much real thoughts? I am sorry if I criticise your personality with that Flat top, I can ensure you that I don't want that but it did not look super authentic to me. Nevertheless, the posts afterwards looked better and indeed you seem to be motivated and maybe I just need to go through your posts again to actually judge the content of it. So please do not feel offended!

Zitat von Buffy

Flat-Tops hm. I'm not sure. I mean on the one hand it's nice, that she have noticed. my strange villager-opinion concerning Ruhrgold, on the other hand wolves of cause, are also searching for possible-teammates to their dead fellow-wolf. And what really hits me of is the fact, that flat top didn't vote me? think that's more wolfish than something else. But daaamn, I really have no clue bout that, let's say Flat Top is under investigation xD

I like that you are not sure about him and see him critical, but I don't like that the only thing you are reffering to is the part about yourself. Leaves me a slightly bad impression on you.


See you later guys!

Zitat von Dinah

Why should Electra vote Ruhrgold like that, if they're wolves together. The only way I could a imagine a scenario like that would be if Caboose's also a wolf and I think it would be a strange coincidence if all of the three who got the most votes are wolves..

Yeah true

Zitat von Electra

I already have been on Caboose, but later on switched to Ruhrgold after you have voted him.

I know, it was a tie and I might have switched if you wouldn't have. But then probably on caboose since I thought you might be a villager which seems now even more likely